Q: People aren’t born sexually attracted to others, so when is “too young”? I’ve seen people speaking out about assigning themselves to a label (not just asexuality) and end questioning too early, as things are especially prone to change in teens.
That is a very good question, and not one I have a clear answer for.
Do I believe that there is a time when someone is “too young” to know that they’re asexual? Yes.
Do I know where the boundary between “too young” and “old enough” is? No.
I think it’s different for every person, just like how puberty kicks in at a different age for every person.
Certainly, there’s a statistical range, but in my ten minutes of searching, I haven’t found a good study on the subject to take figures from. I found one that talks about the age of the first same-sex attraction, but not one about the first experience of sexual attraction in general. Since it’s the only data I could find, let’s proceed as if it’s valid for all types of sexual attraction. (Which it may not be.)
That paper says that the average age of sexual attraction is:
Boys: Mean=9.6, SD=3.6
Girls: Mean=10.1, SD=3.7
Skimming the article, I don’t see any mention of what the distribution of the sample is, so let’s go further away from attempting to come up with a sound conclusion here and assume it’s a normal distribution.
That means that by age 9.6, 50% of boys have had their first experience of sexual attraction, by 13.2, it’s up to 84%, and by 16.8, it’s almost 98%.
For girls, it’s 50% by 10.1, 84% at 13.8, and 98% by 17.5.
I’d say 84% is a high enough threshold of reasonable certainty, so the boundary between “too young” and “old enough” is 13.2 for boys and 13.8 for girls.
Which is an absolutely ridiculous claim to make and it should be rejected out of hand.
At this point, it’s important to note a few things that call into question the validity of this conclusion:
- We’ve made some assumptions and leaps that aren’t based on the data. This is bad science.
- This model doesn’t actually allow for the existence of asexuality. It’s going off an assumption that everyone will eventually experience sexual attraction, even if you’re +13σ off the mean.
- The data comes from some random study from 1996 that I found during a quick Internet search. Has it been discredited? Has it been refined or superceded by better data?
- Is the data itself completely flawed because the study subject might not even understand what they’re feeling?
Beyond just the process errors, even if everything is accurate, why not set the bar at 9.6/10.1? According to the data, at that age, 50% of people have experienced sexual attraction, so if you haven’t, and you think you’re ace, you’ve got 50/50 odds of being correct.
Why not earlier? We often look at asexuality as the fall-through case. It’s where we end up after we’ve realized that none of the other orientations work. Am I straight? Don’t think so. Gay? Nope. Bi? Uh-uh. Guess I must be ace, then. But… Is it really that way? Did we only go through that because we didn’t know there was another possibility? Is there a way to know that you’re asexual without treating it as “none of the above”, something that can be recognized at an earlier age?
I remember sometime probably in the 5th or 6th grade, seeing a pin that read “I’m Temporarily Celibate” at some novelty store. I understood what that meant at the time, and thought it would be nice to have one that said “permanently” instead. That’s a sign. Were there others that were just not recognized? Is there a way to recognize them?
Patterns of attraction can begin to form well before puberty kicks in. I’ve heard of people who’ve known that they’re gay since they were five. Why shouldn’t there be a way to know that you’re ace when you’re five? As asexuality becomes more well known, will we start to decipher the clues?
Enough with all the theoretical stuff, on a more practical note, does it matter? I will admit to not being in tune with today’s youth, but are there really that many 11 year olds going around erroneously claiming to be asexual, simply because they haven’t gotten the hots for someone yet? Doesn’t strike me as something that’s widespread. And even if there are, what’s the harm? When I was 11, there were a lot of other kids who were fans of New Kids on the Block. When 14 rolled around, they all liked Pearl Jam and Nirvana. We never made them renounce their past of singing along to The Right Stuff. Kids change how they feel about things. Big deal. People position “You’re too young” as a way to protect children from the ignorance of youth, but is there really a group that benefits from this advice?
What’s more likely is that someone might start to notice something about themselves when they’re 11, 12, 13. They’ll start to notice that their friends are changing what they like to talk about. 14 and 15 come along and still no interest in girls (or boys, for that matter), and they start wondering why that is. Then, by the time they’re 16 or 17, they’re like “Yeah, I’ve waited long enough, that bus ain’t coming”, and so they begin to openly identify as asexual.
Saying to a 16 or 17 year old that they’re “too young”, when they’ve spent years of introspection and questioning, when they’ve noticed that pretty much everyone else their age has expressed some level of sexual interest yet they themselves have felt nothing, that is nothing short of harmful invalidation. There isn’t a shred of helpfulness about it. It’s merely saying “I’m going to ignore your feelings and simply tell you that you’re wrong, because I choose not to believe you.”
And “You’re too young” doesn’t end at high school graduation. It’s leveled at 20 year olds and 25 year olds and 30 year olds, too. I believe SwankIvy has remarked that “You’re too young to know” lasts until it becomes “You’re too old to want sex anymore anyway.“ There isn’t an age that satisfies these people. They’re like that normal curve up above: No one is actually asexual, they’re just +13σ off the mean.
[It was noted in a follow up response that the logical conclusion of this illogical line of thinking isn’t just that no one is asexual, but that everyone is actually bisexual. It’s just that most people haven’t found that special someone yet.]
So, all of this is why my answer to this question typically is:
If you’re old enough to understand what asexuality is, you’re old enough to know that you’re asexual.
This whole article is so useful. Thank you so much for putting this into words. I hope you don’t mind if I just comment on this part because it’s so true–
“Saying to a 16 or 17 year old that they’re “too young”, when they’ve spent years of introspection and questioning, when they’ve noticed that pretty much everyone else their age has expressed some level of sexual interest yet they themselves have felt nothing, that is nothing short of harmful invalidation. There isn’t a shred of helpfulness about it. It’s merely saying “I’m going to ignore your feelings and simply tell you that you’re wrong, because I choose not to believe you.””
Firstly, this whole debate has always reminded me of what I was told when I started identifying as bi at 14/15 (later realising I as biromantic and asexual not bisexual). I think people forget how far bi inclusion has come in the last 10 or even just the last 5 years. I was told as a teenager that sexuality was either straight or gay, and when I said that I liked both genders, they said that the phase would pass when I got older and I would either prefer one or the other.
And my reaction was always “but what about how I feel NOW?” – because I was still a human being at 14, with a right to feel what I felt. Thank god for the bi community – there are some wonderful, wonderful bi angels who stopped me from feeling like so freakish and invisible at the same time lol. Then when I realised I was asexual the whole “late bloomer” argument reminded me so strongly of that bi erasure – I was told that I’d feel desire when I got older, that it would come. People wouldn’t listen.
Secondly, as someone who was abused, controlled and manipulated (hello gaslighting) six ways to Sunday as a kid, I find it very disturbing to see adults invalidating kids’ feelings and experiences and refusing to listen to their descriptions of their feelings under the guise of automatically knowing what’s best for them because they are adults.
I’m currently 14 (maybe young to be on the internet, but it is what is is). I’ve never really felt the same way as people around me; my classmates are talking about sex and love and lots of them have boyfriends/girlfriends, but I’ve just never really understood. I have done the same rationalization of “I don’t think I’m gay, therefore I’m straight, therefore I should feel attraction, therefore I feel attracted to the person in front of me in class (they’re interesting, but in the same way the rest of my friends are to me).” Even if I am just a ‘late bloomer’, thank you for opening me up to the possibility that what I’m feeling isn’t ‘wrong’ or ‘childish’. I really appreciate your blog, your book, and everything you’re working on.
(As a final note, my parents don’t believe that anything other than boy/girl and homosexual/heterosexual/bisexual exist, so I probably won’t come out as anything until I’m 18 and fairly sure of what I’m doing.)
I can relate to this!! I never understood other kids ny own age and often felt confused and didn’t “get” them. I *just* now (as in this past week!) am learning about asexuality, and that I identify as heterodemiromantic asexual. Being 40, I’ve always felt different, weird and sometimes “broken” because I didn’t understand or feel sexual attraction. This term wasn’t common in my teens (I was born in 1980) and even now anyone I’ve talked with doesn’t understand. But at least at 40 they haven’t said it was a “phase.” As sexuality is a spectrum, knowing yourself and being open to learning more and redefining your sexuality is a life-long process. Be who you are! At least now I know I’m not alone!! That’s the biggest gift from this experience.
Well that cleared a lot if things up for me
It’s funny because instead of insisting people go down a list of options (straight, gay, bi, ace…), they could just as easily say everyone’s ace until something else kicks in. But that would be an inconvenient stance. Lol. People are weird.
Thank you for this. Hopefully when I use it to try to convince my mom that I’m not too young (16 this summer, but I’ll probably do it in October for ace awareness week/national coming out day) to be ace, she’ll actually believe me. (I tried to come out a couple months ago – no dice.)
Thanks for this! I’ve been out to my parents & my brother for 15 years, but I just told my brother’s fiance yesterday. It went pretty well. She accepts me & has even known another ace before. My father overheard & made some of his little comments. He accepts me, but still doesn’t understand.
So… just to drop some numbers on these numbers….
According to the Wikipedes, approx 1% of the adult population is Asexual.
What this means, is that at the age of 13ish, when 84% of the population HAS experienced sexual attraction, 16% of them HAVE NOT… and of this 16% only 1% will never experience sexual attraction (1/16 odds).
By the age of 17.5, 98% of population have experienced sexual attraction and 2% haven’t, so at that stage, someone who has never felt sexual attraction has 50:50 odds of never feeling it.
‘course, obviously, anyone can make use of whatever label feels most appropriate for them at the time they are using it; if someone 13 or 14, and isn’t wanting sex, is make sense….
But might be a little early for like… tying your name to a label, shouting it from the rooftops etc.
Feeling no sexual feelings by 13/14 is strong evidence, but when the baseline chance of being Ace is 1 in 100, it probably isn’t strong ENOUGH evidence to really be super sure on thing.
Wikipedia does also state that the actual number of asexuals might be higher that 1%, because less sexually experienced people are more likely to refuse to participate in studies about sexuality, and asexuals tend to be less sexually experienced than sexuals.
It is likely that asexuals were under-represented in the responding participants of the studies leading to that number.
I try to figure out what sexual attraction is and I can’t figure it out which is why I’m confused. I’m gray-biromantic, I know that. I don’t really know what ‘turned on’ means. I never really cared about how people looked, if their personality was nice then that was cool. On provocative things like on social media or whatever I feel something but it’s more like dang wow that is hot but I don’t want to have it with them that’s gross. So I feel something when I see something specifically provocative but never when it’s not and I never think (as I normally see when people try to explain attractions) they describe feeling sexual attraction as dang I want to have sex with that person but I never have that desire. I guess I just find them aesthetically attractive? idk. I don’t know if I’m gray-biromantic asexual or gray-biromantic graysexual lesbian. I’m almost 15 and I’m confused lol, I’ve found girls attractive since I was 9 but never even now when I’m older have that desire or whatever.
When I was eight, I learnt where babies came from, and was disgusted at the thought of doing that (and of taking my undies off in front of a guy :P) but I thought my feelings would change as I got older.
When I was twelve and going through puberty, I was like, “What the heck? I still haven’t gotten a crush on someone. I don’t feel straight, but I don’t feel like a lesbian either!” and my mother explained what asexuality was.
Then, I forgot about it for a while, wondering if maybe I was a late bloomer, until I was 15. That’s when I discovered this site, looked through Possible Signs of Asexuality, and concluded that I was definitely ace.